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Re: Nick's comments on HolQeD



>Guidovo':
>...
>> If ever you have a nominalized verb used as your object, look carefully. In
>> most cases like that, you can (and should) recast with the {'e'} pronoun.
>
>charghwI'vo':
>
>     I've recently wondered if this sort of device could be used in a
>comparative construction in a way similar to Krankor's use of {-ghach} a
>while back in HolQeD. My point is less to discredit Krankor than to wonder if
>this alternative could be considered valid:
>
>          jIjaH 'e' qaq law' jIratlh 'e' qaq puS
>
>     "It is more preferable that I go than that I stay."
>
>     Does this work for people? I like it because it avoids any controversy
>over the use of {-ghach} with any verb stem or artificially suffixed verb,
>AND it avoids any controversy over whether a verb with prefixes or even
>explicit subjects and objects can be nominalized. It does make for a somewhat
>long winded construction in many cases, but that's the nature of law'/puS.
>
>     This construction also lacks any ambiguity and significantly expands the
>use of the comparative construction.
>
>charghwI'


Oh, GADS!

charghwI', usually, when you post something, it seems to be pretty clear how 
you are thinking, and where you are coming from... but I have to confess, I 
have *NO* idea where you came up with this.  There is absolutely *NO* 
indication *anywhere* that we can do something like this.

Much to my personal regret, I have been forced to agree (for now, until 
examples come up showing otherwise) that the *only* construct which can go in 
the A and B slots are nouns or noun phrases.  This is NOT a noun... it is a 
whole sentence.

And personally, if it ever *did* change that we could put something other than 
a noun there, I would much rather see a construct like this:

	jIjaH qaq law' jIratlh qaq puS

... where a whole sentence can be put in each slot.  However, at this time, I 
agree that this cannot be done.

In short, no, it *doesn't* work for me...


--HoD trI'Qal
  tlhwD lIy So'

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