Shoulsonvo': content-length: 350 >OK, the reason you couldn't find anything on infinitives and gerunds in TKD >is pretty simple: Klingon doesn't have them. Really. It makes do with >subordinate clauses. It's always been my view that -ghach is a gerund marker. The way it's described certainly makes it sound like such, even if it isn't actually stated to be such. -QumpIn 'avrIn