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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH chorgh: maghlu'

ghunchu'wI' 'utlh ([email protected])



<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Robyn Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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</blockquote>DumISmoHpu&#39;mo&#39; vIlISnISlaw&#39;.  </div></div></div></blockquote>
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<div>mu&#39;mey vIlaDbogh vIyaj &#39;e&#39; vIDubnISlaw&#39; neH jIH.</div>
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<div>Do&#39;Ha&#39; nge&#39; qImyal, jonDI&#39;. chaq lIjbe&#39;meJ laDwI&#39; DaH qelnIS vajar. </div></div></div></blockquote>
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<div>wej ngoDvam vISovlaH.</div>
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<div>mupIHmoHba&#39; &#39;ay&#39;vam pong.</div>
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<p>After having {bej} used this way often in the story, &quot;facing the wall&quot; comes very easily to mind. I hope it isn&#39;t an abuse of the word&#39;s true meaning.</p></div></blockquote></div>I did mean it as &quot;watches the wall.&quot;. He&#39;s not deigning ti turn and look at her.  </div>

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<div>I always try to read noncanonical idioms as literally as I can, so the intended meaning was not lost behind the accidental idiom.</div>
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</div></blockquote></div>I was looking for &quot;reports&quot;.  But I will change the prefix to accommodate requiring it to be reported speech. </div></div></blockquote>
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<div>Another way to &quot;fix&quot; it might be to make the second-person sentence completely separate. {tach Dapuypu&#39;. muja&#39; HungpIn «luQaw&#39;chu&#39;pu&#39;.»}</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">wej qImyal Dup vIyaj. peghDaj ghojpu&#39; Qa&#39;bar &#39;e&#39; Sovbe&#39;&#39;a&#39;?</blockquote></div>chobDaq nuq ja&#39; DaqwI&#39;?  qImyalvaD De&#39; ja&#39;pu&#39;&#39;a&#39;? ghobe&#39;.</div>

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<div> mIl qImyal, wej &#39;e&#39; Sov. vIlIjpu&#39;. qaStaHvIS jaj law&#39; lut vIbuSbe&#39;, &#39;ej wanI&#39;mey Don vIqImchu&#39;be&#39;.</div>
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<div>jan tu&#39;DI&#39; Qa&#39;bar, joy&#39;meHpa&#39; ghoSmeH meH mejpu&#39; qImyal, &#39;e&#39; wISov. </div></div></blockquote>
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<div>&#39;ej De&#39; law&#39; HutlhtaH, Qapchu&#39;be&#39;taHmo&#39; Duj Qumpat.</div>
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<div>- ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;</div></div>
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