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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH chorgh: maghlu'

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

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At 16:54 '?????' 7/30/2012, Robyn Stewart wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On 2012-07-30, at 13:42,
&quot;ghunchu'wI' 'utlh&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:43 PM,
Qov
&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

<dl><br>

<dd>nab laj qoreQ. jolpat ravDaq gho' vajar. nISwI' beH, betleH je qemtaH
vajar[274],<br><br>

</dl>pu' HIchDaj lonpu''a'?</blockquote>Do'Ha' nge' qImyal, jonDI'. chaq
lIjbe'meJ laDwI' DaH qelnIS vajar. </blockquote><br>
jImISpu' jIjangtaHvIS. ngugh wej nge'pu' qImyal. pu'HIch
vIqelmoH.<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl>
<dd>'ach lotlhwI'pu' HIvmoHbe'meH DubDajDaq beH qem 'ej ghopDajvo' HuStaH
neH betleH. jolpat SeHlaw buS qoreQ 'ej leQmey law' 'uy. tagha' vajar
leghlaHghach wewchoHmoH jol 'ej ngoSchoH pa'.<br><br>

<dd>ngoSHa'lI' chob chIm. lurghDaj wIvmeH 'IjchoH vajar. ghaH tlhopDaq
ghoghmey QoylaHmo' DuvchoH. lotlhwI'pu'vaD jatlhrupmeH pur vajar. Huj.
may' larghlaHbe'. chaq chobvamvaD jaS 'el muD ngeb.<br><br>

</dl>pagh chaq chIch chob mujDaq jolta' lotlhbe'bogh
qoreQ.</blockquote>'e' DaQub'a'?&nbsp; :-) vIqontaHvIS SIbI' loy laDwI'
'e' vIHaj, 'ach SovtaHvIS laDwI' Sovbe'taHvIS qaH'eng vajar je, Qap je
lut. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>vajar retlhDaq pum vay' mach. ngu'laHpa' vajar, jor. wovqu'choHmo'
chob, leghlaHbe'. pe'vIl muplaw'mo' muD tlhoS tlhuHlaHbe'.<br><br>

</dl>ghaytan QoylaHbe' je.<br>

<dl><br>

<dd>nom chob lu'el negh law'. 'omqu'bej vajar 'ach chIch
Hub'eghrupbe'pu'mo' lujchu'. <br><br>

</dl>**<br>
chIch wunmo', chaq &lt;-ta'&gt; qaq law' &lt;-pu'&gt; qaq
puS.</blockquote>tlhejmo' -be' vISovbejbe'. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>vulchoH. mInDu'Daj poSqa'laHDI', joy'wI' pa'Daq ghaHtaH.<br><br>

</dl>qab De' 'ej QaQ De'. jonba'ta' qImyal. 'ach Do'qu'chugh 'ej
valchugh, pa'Daq jollu' 'e' chaw'meH Hung pat ngeplaH.<br>

<dl><br>

<dd>vajar 'emDaq yebDu'Daj tay'moH tlhoy' rarbogh mIrmey Qey'e'. DaSmey
tuQbe'taH. ngIbDu'Daj rartaH je mIr, 'ej rav rar. 'oy'choH
volchaHDu'Daj.<br><br>

</dl>**<br>
I can make {tlhoy'/rav rar mIr} work without stretching the meaning of
{rar} to include a &quot;connect *to*&quot; idea, but just barely.
Rephrasing it is not necessary, but it might make it read a little more
smoothly.</blockquote>vIlaDqa'. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>ngaQHa'moHwI' wab Qoy. poSmoH lojmIt 'ej 'el qImyal Sa'. quSDaq
ba'choH Sa'. vajar bejchoH Sa'. tlhoy' bejtaH vajar 'ach Sa'
leghlaH.<br><br>

</dl>After having {bej} used this way often in the story, &quot;facing
the wall&quot; comes very easily to mind. I hope it isn't an abuse of the
word's true meaning.</blockquote>I did mean it as &quot;watches the
wall.&quot;. He's not deigning ti turn and look at her. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>jatlh qImyal, «qanoHHa'pu', vajar HoD. qIQmeH yaSpu'wI' DaponlaH 'e'
vIloybe'. 'et tach boQaw'pu' ja' HungpInwI'. bIHem'a'?»<br><br>

</dl>tach Qaw'pu' 'e' buSlaw' HungpIn. raSmeyvetlh SaHqu'ba' jay'! ram'a'
Heghbogh negh?</blockquote>ja'pu' ya Sogh ...<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><br>
**<br>
{ja'} isn't being used the way I expect that it should here: {boQaw'pu'}
has the wrong prefix for it to be reported speech.</blockquote>I was
looking for &quot;reports&quot;.&nbsp; But I will change the prefix to
accommodate requiring it to be reported speech. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>'et tach SaH'a' Sa'? QaSDaj nawlogh luQaw'ta' je.<br><br>

</dl>tu' je vajar. maj.</blockquote>chaq De' naQ ghajbe' je qImyal. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>jatlh vajar, «qIQchoHmeH vIponbe'. qIQrup chaH. 'eb vInob
neH.»<br><br>

<dd>jatlh qImyal, «QupwI'pu'vaD 'eb Danobmo' loQ bInoy. pIj nInaD
nItoy'pu'bogh beqpu'.»<br><br>

<dd>noy'a' vajar? machmo' Dugh 'ej pIj Dalmo' Qu'meyDaj, reH vajar toy'
beqpu' Qup, beqpu''e' lajHa'ta'bogh latlhpu' je. ghojmoHtaH vajar.
ghojmoH 'e' tIv 'ej ghojwI'pu'Daj SaHqu'.<br><br>

</dl>maj. ja' vIttlhegh lI' «ghojwI'pu'lI'
tISaH».</blockquote>wISovbej, jIH vajar je. <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>pIj Dujmey potlh toy'choH, vajar toy'pu'DI'. chaHmo' Hem vajar. jatlh
«vIvuvmo' 'ej vIghongbe'mo' batlh mutoy'.» <br><br>

</dl>vuvbe' qImyal 'ej ghong, 'e' chuplaw' vajar.</blockquote>teHlaH'a'?
:-)<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<dl><br>

<dd>mIwmeyDaj ghojwI'pu'Daj je DelmeH vajar yu'choH qImyal. peghmey
bIHbe'mo' jatlhqang vajar. 'op mIwmeyDaj Ho' qImyal. 'oy'taH vajar
volchaHDu' 'ach ghu'vam SIQlaHbej.<br><br>

</dl>wej qImyal Dup vIyaj. peghDaj ghojpu' Qa'bar 'e'
Sovbe''a'?</blockquote>chobDaq nuq ja' DaqwI'?&nbsp; qImyalvaD De'
ja'pu''a'? ghobe'.&nbsp; De' 'op nob 'ach qImyal HeSmey tu'DI' moch rI',
'ej lotlhchoH ghaH moch je. <br><br>
jan tu'DI' Qa'bar, joy'meHpa' ghoSmeH meH mejpu' qImyal, 'e' wISov.
<br><br>
- Qov<br><br>
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