tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Feb 02 13:50:26 2012
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rIQ
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Felix Malmenbeck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="direction:ltr;font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">I'm not that good at linguistics jargon, myself, but do I take it that the distinction you see is that -lI' should involve doing something actively, wherefore rIQ would [in most
cases] not be used with -lI'?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here's are some example sentences for how I understand -lI' and -taH.</div><div><br></div><div>1. veng ghoStaH ghotpu'.</div>
<div>2. veng ghoSlI' ghotpu'.</div><div><br></div><div>3. Duj tI'taH jonpIn.</div><div>4. Duj tI'lI' jonpIn.</div><div><br></div><div>I interpret #1 as meaning that people are always coming to the city. Maybe it's New York or veng wa'DIch--a big city that always has people going in and out.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In interpet #2 as meaning that some people are on their way to the city. They left some time ago, and they're haven't arrived yet, but they will eventually.</div><div><br></div><div>In #3, the engineer is always fixing the ship. There's always something broken on the ship, so the engineer is always fixing something. That's his job--it doesn't end. In #4, there is some damage he is fixing and eventually he will finish. Maybe he's repairing the warp core and the ship can't move until he's done.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In other words, the progressive (-lI') is used for an action that *unfolds* over a period of time with a definite beginning and a definite end. The continuous (-taH) is used for an action that happens over a period of time without a definite beginning or end.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't want to use -lI' with rIQ because I see rIQ as a state rather than a process that unfolds over time. Either you are injured or you're not. It may be temporary, ie, have a definite end, but it doesn't *unfold* over time.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure someone will dispute my interpretation, though.</div><div><br></div><div>bI'reng</div></div>
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