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Re: KLBC: Translating Dilbert

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



ter'eS:
>>Why not just use {SoH} 'you'?

lay'tel:
>Then how to express the interrogative?  Intonation?  Analogous to {tlha'a
>Hod}'s {'entepray''a'?}?  {SoH'a'?} does that, but then it may be adding too
>much.  I thought {qatlh?} was a good equivalent of the English.

Voragh:
> > Although {qatlh} "why?" is perfectly fine, what's wrong with
> > intonation?  If you insist on adding a suffix, how about combining {'e'}
> > "topic" with intonation:  {SoH'e'?} "You (of all people)?!"

lay'tel:
>Mostly because intonation is not a standard way of expressing a question (or
>anything else).  Intonation in Klingon grammar is unknown territory.

Ah, now I see.  The vast majority of our examples use {-'a'}, a question 
word, or {qar'a'} when asking a question.  However, there so seem to be a 
very few examples with intonation alone:

   puhichweej dalegpu   ("hinterlands" dialect )
   pu'HIchwIj Daleghpu' (Standard dialect)
   Have you seen my phaser?  PK  ({-'a'} omitted. MO's error?)

   Kruge:  vaj Daleghpu'
           "Then you have seen it?" ST3

IIRC Kruge's intonation was more of an ominous statement of fact.

   Vixis:  tlhIngan ghaH wa' vub'e'.
           "One of the hostages is a Klingon."
   Klaa:   latlh?
           "And the others?"

   Klaa:   'entepray''a'?  qIrq Duj 'oH!
           "Enterprise? That's Kirk's ship!"  ST5

Here's that bizarre example with {-'a'} on a noun.  Perhaps heard during 
highly emotional speech, or could it be a trace of Klaa's regional accent 
(whatever that might be)?

   Chang:  narghta'?  narghta'.
           "Escaped." ST6

You may want to listen to the intonation yourself during this scene with 
the warden, but I heard this repeated as "{narghta'?} "He escaped?! 
(shocked question) "{narghta'.}  "Escaped."  (disappointed realization).

Except for the PK example, these are all short 1 or 2 word utterances - 
more exclamations than full sentences.  Perhaps dropping the {-'a'} is a 
form of clipping heard in tense situations.  Or else they were all spoken 
on the bridge of a warship by military officers, except for the PK 
example.  Although they weren't in combat, the military setting is exactly 
where one would expect to hear Clipped Klingon.  I bet you would tend to 
hear a lot of it on starships, as part of that terse, military style 
soldiers everywhere tend to affect, even when not in actual combat.

But getting back to Dilbert, {SoH, qar'a'?} might be the least controversial.



--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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