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Re: transitivity

Alan Anderson ([email protected])

From: Alan Anderson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: transitivity
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:18:47 -0500
In-reply-to: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>

On Nov 9, 2006, at 11:45 PM, pm5 wrote:

> On 11/10/06, Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>> --- De'vID <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> You can always just say {Suv Lisa Dan je},
>>> although it's ambiguous.
>>>
>>> It clearly means "Lisa fights and also (militarily)
>>> occupies".
>>>
>>
>> That would have to be {Suv Lisa 'ej Dan}.
>
> When {je} follows a verb it means "also" [TKD p.55]:
>
>       The noun conjunction {je} has an additional function: when it
>     follows a verb, it means <also, too.>
>
>         {qaleghpu' je} <I also saw you, I saw you too>
>
> So there are two sentences
>
>     {Suv Lisa, Dan je.} "Lisa fights, (and she) also occupies."

I think the examples we have of this use of {je} apply the 'also'  
idea to either the subject or the object of the sentence, not to the  
verb.  To get the meaning you want requires the verb conjunction  
{'ej}, as ter'eS suggested.

-- ghunchu'wI'

Follow-Ups:
- Re: transitivity
  - From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Re: transitivity
  - From: De'vID <[email protected]>

References:
- Re: transitivity
  - From: De'vID <[email protected]>
- Re: transitivity
  - From: Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>
- Re: transitivity
  - From: pm5 <[email protected]>

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