tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 25 07:24:26 2006
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RE: Neologisms
Holtej:
> we also have our own slang that was created out of necessity or
> humor. Some coinages remain because they fill a need (HIlel);
Philip:
> >> I've heard of this one -- "sandwich", right?
Holtej:
>Krankor talks about this in the _Earthlings_ movie. They were at a
>restaurant and Krankor was only speaking Klingon. He wanted to express that
>he wanted the sandwich rather than some other item, so something like {Soj}
>would not have been clear. Seqram was there, and so he used {HIlel}
>tongue-in-cheek to indicate the sandwich, in reference to a Jewish custom
>(passover?). It was a nonce word, it was funny, and it did the job. But
>then, Krankor says, people started to use this word more and more for
>"sandwich," (probably a qep'a' phenomenon), and it's taken on a life of its
>own.
Seqram (Mark Shoulson) posted sometime earlier:
"This was at qep'a' wejDIch. We had all gone out to eat at a nearby
restaurant. Again, I was at Krankor's table, and again he was speaking only
Klingon, and I was translating for him. He got across that he wanted the
swordfish ({'etlh bIQ Ha'DIbaH}) but then was asked if he wanted the
sandwich or the platter. This is a toughie. He looked at me and said
"{HIlel vIneHbe'}." This one took me a few minutes, but I'm proud I got it
at all. ... In the Passover Seder...there is a part called "korekh" wherein
you make a sandwich out of matzah (unleavened bread) and a bitter
vegetable. This is done to remember the tradition of the sage Hillel, who
used to do the same when eating the Passover sacrifice (no longer offered)
in order to fulfill the commandment of eating it "together" with matzah and
bitter herbs... Krankor remembered that in his house they make a fuss about
how it was therefore Hillel and not the Earl of Sandwich who invented the
sandwich... and so used that term. And so I worked out what he meant,
informed him I'd kill him for such convoluted punning, and translated."
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons