tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 25 05:59:30 2006
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RE: Neologisms
- From: "d'Armond Speers, Ph.D." <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Neologisms
- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:02:20 -0500
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QeS 'utlh wrote:
> ghItlhpu' Holtej, ja':
>> we also have our own slang that was created out of necessity or
>> humor. Some coinages remain because they fill a need (HIlel);
>
> jangpu' Philip, ja':
>> I've heard of this one -- "sandwich", right?
>
> HIchuH! mu'vetlh chenmoHlu'meH qaS nuq? chay' chen?
Krankor talks about this in the _Earthlings_ movie. They were at a
restaurant and Krankor was only speaking Klingon. He wanted to express that
he wanted the sandwich rather than some other item, so something like {Soj}
would not have been clear. Seqram was there, and so he used {HIlel}
tongue-in-cheek to indicate the sandwich, in reference to a Jewish custom
(passover?). It was a nonce word, it was funny, and it did the job. But
then, Krankor says, people started to use this word more and more for
"sandwich," (probably a qep'a' phenomenon), and it's taken on a life of its
own.
> ja'taH Holtej:
>> ngech).
>
> jangpu' Philip, ja':
>> What was canonised about this one? I presume the anatomical meaning
>> was added to a word that already existed in canon, with a
>> geographical/geological meaning? Or were both meanings thought up by
>> speakers and later canonised by Okrand?
>
> {ngech} "valley" is in TKD. According to the Wiki, Rachel
> Wyman (r'Hul) takes credit for the slang usage.
Was it at {qep'a' wejDIch}? I don't remember. But yes, r'Hul was the
source for this, and Marc approved it.
--Holtej