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Re: *nuqDaqvo'

Lieven L. Litaer ([email protected])

• From: "Lieven L. Litaer" <[email protected]>
• Subject: Re: *nuqDaqvo'
• Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:30:14 +0200
• In-reply-to: <[email protected]>
• Organization: qepHom.de
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Am Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:57:45 EDT hat <[email protected]> 
geschrieben:

> In a message dated 2004-07-27 8:35:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
>> > If TKD didn't explicitly state that {nuqDaq} is {nuq} plus the type 5
>>
>> I don't know.
>>
>> > noun suffix {-Daq}, I would have no trouble accepting it as a compound 
>> > noun, capable of taking any other suffixes.
>>
>> --> i.e. cf. e.g. etc. QongDaqDaq
>>
>> Quvar
>
> I'm not sure what your point is, but that's the example I was thinking of 
> too.
>
> If {nuqDaq} were a noun without a suffix, then adding {-vo'} would 
> present no problem, just as {QongDaqDaq} presents no problem.  But 
> {QongDaq} and {nuqDaq} are not comparable.

You're right!

> {QongDaq} is a noun (apparently a compound noun with the second element 
> meaning 'site, location') and {nuqDaq} is the question word (noun?) {nuq} 
> plus the type 5 noun suffix {-Daq}.

Sorry, apparently I missed something during the discussion.
To restate my honor, I present the relevant information which revealed my 
error.

TKD lists these question words:
--------------------------
    {chay'} "how?"
    {ghorgh} "when?"
    {nuq} "what?"
    {nuqDaq} "where?"
    {qatlh} "why?"
    {'ar} "how many? how much?"
    {'Iv} "who?"

(1)  For {'Iv} "who?" and {nuq} "what?" the question word fits into the 
sentence in the position that would be occupied by the answer. For example: 
[...]

(2)  Both {'Iv} and {nuq} are treated as nouns as far as the pronominal 
prefixes are concerned. That is, they are considered third person. [...]

(3)  The word for "where?," {nuqDaq,} is actually {nuq} "what?" followed by 
the suffix {-Daq} "locative" (see section 3.3.5). As would any locative 
phrase (see section 6.1), it comes at the beginning of the sentence.

    {nuqDaq So'taH yaS} "Where is the officer hiding?"
                        ({So'taH} "he/she is hiding")
--------------------------

so:

 nuqDaq So'taH?
 DujDaq So'taH!

 nuqDaq ghoS?
 DujDaq ghoS!

 nuqvo' ghoS?
 Dujvo' ghoS!

it seems all so clear... Is it? or am I more confused than before?

Quvar.

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