tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Aug 21 10:06:45 2003
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Re: Grammar question re:tlheD
jIqel asks:
>> Does tlheD take an object? If so, is it the place being departed (from)?
>> /juHwIj vItlheD/ I depart (from) my home?
SuStel:
>I don't think /tlheD/ has been used in canon.
Correct. {tlheD} "depart" hasn't been used in canon but the synonym {mej}
"leave, depart" has:
ghorgh mamej
When do we leave? CK
vagh rep bImejnIS
Check-out time is five a.m. CK
bImejDI' reH betleHlIj yItlhap
Never leave without your bat'telh. TKW
bImej
You leave. (ST:C KLS)
DorDI' jar mejpu'
At the end of the month, he/she left.
("When the month ended, he/she left") (HQ 12.2:8)
Unfortunately, none of these examples mention the place being departed (from).
>The two most obvious possible answers are
>
>1. /tlheD/ may take the location being departed as its object, as in /yuQ
>wItlheD/ "We departed the planet."
>
>2. /tlheD/ does not take an object. Thus, /yuQvo' matlheD/.
>
>Regarding possibility 1, and keeping in mind Okrand's interview in HolQeD
>7:4 where he describes verbs of motion, it would be conceivable, I think
>likely, that the object could also take the /-vo'/ "from" suffix: /yuQvo'
>wItlheD/.
Here are the other examples of {-vo'} used with verbs of motion:
pa'vo' yIjaH
Leave the room! ("Go from the room!") TKD 28
naDevvo' yIghoS
Go away! TKD
naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'
Can we get to the Great Hall from here? PK
juHqo' Qo'noSvo' loghDaq lengtaHvIS tlhInganpu'
During the (aggressive) expansion of the Klingon people from their
homeworld of Kronos into space... SP1
tera'vo' Qo'noS vIchegh
I return to Kronos from Earth. (st.k 7/99)
yuQvo' jIleng
I roam away from the planet. (HQ 12/1998)
ghe'torvo' narghDI' qa'pu'
when spirits escape from Gre'thor KGT
may'meyDajvo' Haw'be' tlhIngan
A Klingon does not run away from his battles. TKW
Note especially the last example with {Haw'} "flee, get out" - pretty close
in meaning to {tlheD} and {mej} - which tips the scales slightly in favor
of SuStel's 2nd possibility.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons