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Re: Appositive



ja' peHruS:
>In a message dated 98-09-15 13:05:30 EDT, Voragh presents:
>
><< DuraS tuq tlhIngan yejquv patlh luDub 'e' reH lunIDtaH DuraS be'nI'pu'
>     lurSa' be'etor je.  >>
>
>Again, a canon source on which I need an explanation.
>
>Why does the adverb {reH} follow the object-marker of the clause {'e'}?  I
>thought adverbs precede object+verb+subject basic sentence

Without any special rules to apply, we merely assume that the "adverbs
first" rule applies to the second sentence of a sentence as object. 
Is it a special case with exceptional grammar?  We don't know.  We do 
know that adverbs can come after an object having the suffix {-'e'}; 
perhaps the pronoun {'e'} acts similarly.  Or perhaps misplacing the
adverb like this is just a common error like leaving off {lu-}.

I commented on exactly this issue less than two months ago.  I repeat
my words from July 31 here for your convenience:

>This sentence also puts an aspect suffix on the second verb of a
>sentence as object, something clearly forbidden in TKD.  It isn't just
>giving us an example of usage we didn't know about.  It's actually
>contradicting usage we *do* know about.  When canon examples differ
>from explicit canon rules, I tend to put more weight on the rules.
>We've already got undeniable misspellings, mispronunciations, and
>mistakes of other sorts in canon (cha'maH wa' vatlh rep = noon comes
>to mind).  Until either this is unambiguously explained or we get an
>adequate supply of supporting phrases, I'm not going to worry much
>about why {reH} comes after {'e'} in this particular example.

-- ghunchu'wI'



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