tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Oct 27 16:03:39 1998
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RE: KLBC: Sormey Hol
- From: "Andeen, Eric" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: Sormey Hol
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:00:52 -0700
lab K'ryntes:
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> veng ngo'Daq Hujbogh Dochmey net tu'.
There is no main verb in the first bit, so you can't use <net>. You have to
say either <... Huj Dochmey net tu'> or <... Hujbogh Dochmey tu'lu'>. Based
on the English, you meant the second one.
> reH bommey bombogh ghotpu' tu'lu'.
This is fine, but it seems like you are a little hung up on what you want
the English to be. Here's my suggestion for an alternative: <bomtaHwI'pu'
tu'lu'>. Think about that, and I am sure you will come up with dozens of
variations on how to say this. Pick the one you like best.
> not tam ghotpu' 'ach mob.
> vIqaghchugh QeHchoH.
> jIHvaD jach.
maj. I might use <ghotpu'vam> or <bomwI'pu'> or <bomwI'pu'vam> to make it
flow better, though. I would probably also put <-taH> on <mob>.
> jIyajbe' 'e' Hol tIQ lulo'.
Not quite. Let's try analyzing the English "They use an ancient language
which I do not understand." First, "They use..." is <lulo'>, which is fine.
"An ancient language" is <Hol tIQ> - also fine. The part with the problem is
<... which I don't understand>. This is done in Klingon with a <-bogh>
clause: <Hol tIQ vIyajbe'bogh ...>
Hol tIQ vIyajbe'bogh lulo'.
> vaj bommeychaj bomqa'.
This use of <vaj> as "then" doesn't work. <vaj> can only mean "then" in a
logical sense, as in "if A then B". If you just leave it off, the sentence
is fine. You might add <tugh> to the beginning of the sentence to make it
smoother.
> 'IvvaD bom.
> SormeyvaD bom'a'.
maj. If you are going to use punctuation, though, use ?'s on questions.
> jI'Ijchugh jatlh Sormey 'e' chaq vIQoy.
I would say <... chaq 'e' vIQoy>, although we have canon examples of
sticking the adverbial after the <'e'>, so yours is fine as well.
> ja' Sormey jupwI' qatlho'.
The direct address here - <jupwI' qatlho'> - is fine, but a comma would make
it clearer for the reader. Note that it works in either order - <qatlho',
jupwI'> or <jupwI', qatlho'>.
> ja' mutungHa' bommeylIj.
> ja' DaH jInenchoH.
> ja' DaH jIHoS.
>
> One notices strange things in the old city. There are people
> who always sing songs. They are alone but they are never quiet.
> If I interrupt them, they become angry. They shout at me.
> They use an ancient language that I don't understand. Then
> they resume singing their songs. To whom do they sing? Do
> they sing to the trees? If I listen, perhaps I will hear the
> trees speak. They will say, "Thank you my friend. Your songs
> encouraged me. Now I will grow. Now I will be strong."
majQa' !!! bomvam Daqon pagh Damugh? Daqonchugh vaj batlh bIqonchu'.
Damughchugh vaj mughmeH chovnatlh nIv DawIv.
pagh
Beginners' Grammarian