tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Jul 04 09:08:27 1998
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Re: KLBC: ngotlhwI' ghom
- From: Robyn Stewart <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: ngotlhwI' ghom
- Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:10:25 -0700 (PDT)
---Alan Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ja' Qov:
> >loQ 'IQ ghu'. bong vIbuQlaw'. juppu' maH 'ach maSuvchuq je.
> >vISuvbe' 'e' vInID, 'ach jIpupbe'.
>
> yIpIch'eghQo'! qu' qa'raj. Do'Ha' bong ghaH mawlu'meH ngeDlaw'.
> latlh vIjatlhqangpbe'.
>
> > In Klingon there is not a
> >distinction between the words for "win" and "succeed." chaq ngeb
> >DIvI' Hol pImlaw'ghach.
>
> rapbej qechmey. Well, "succeed" isn't transitive, but that's trivial.
>
> >chaq QapmeH charghnIS.
>
> ghobe'. ngoQ SIchnIS neH. latlh charghnISbe'.
>
> >QapmeH wa', pumnIS'a' latlh? teHbe' 'e' vItul, 'ach tobbe' qun.
>
> yIHarQo'. teHbe'qu'bej. QapmeH yeqlaH cha' vaj Qap cha'.
> Qochchugh cha' ghot, chaq lugh wa'. chaq muj pagh. 'ach
> muj wa' 'e' tobchugh latlh, lujpu'be' mujwI'. vIt ghojmo',
> Qap je ghaH.
>
> reHrupbe'chugh wa' reHchu'taHvIS latlh, qay'laHbej ghu'. 'ach
> qejnISbe' reHbe'wI'.
>
> lujwI' QuchmoHnISbe' QapwI'. QuchQo'chugh vay', QaHlaH pagh.
>
> >> 'ebmo'
> >> chonobpu'bogh qatlho'. (Can I put suffixes on the > head noun like
> >that?)
> >
> >It's not very understandable. We have one disputed canon example,
> >{meQbogh qachDaq ...} but it puts the type-5 on the subject noun,
> >which makes it a little easier to read.
>
> We also have a slightly more obscure canon example, from the Skybox
> DS9 1993 Series, card 99: {qIb HeHDaq, 'u' SepmeyDaq Suvbe'lu'bogh
> lenglu'meH He ghoSlu'bogh retlhDaq 'oHtaH.} The relevant part is the
> {'u' SepmeyDaq Sovbe'lu'bogh} "unknown regions of the universe" used
> as the locative of {lenglu'meH He ghoSlu'bogh} "path which is followed
> in order for one to travel". It can be diagrammed and analyzed, but I
> sure can't understand it at a glance. :-)
Looks as if, like many things in English, we can say it's apparently
grammatical but ugly enough to hamper communication more than a mere
DI-/wI- prefix error. Hee. Maybe the Skybox cards read like Japanese
instruction manuals from the 1970s.
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