tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Feb 06 20:09:03 1998
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the sound [gh] in languages
I don't know much about the Dutch [r] sound.
Modern Greek has the Klingon [gh], a hard [gamma] sound. (A soft [gamma]
has a [y] sound.
Arabic (and Farsi ) has this sound too, represented by the letter
[ghain]. [Ghain] when the letters represent numbers, is the numeral for
[1,000].
In grammars I've encountered, Biblical Hebrew has this sound too. A
non-dageshed|soft [gimel]. But when I hear Biblical Hebrew spoken today,
it is pronounced has our hard [g].
In some grammars|dictionaries of Spanish, the hard [g] sound that is
prounounced between vowels (and in a few other circumstances) have the
Klingon [gh] sound.
I believe the French [r] is fairly close to Klingon [gh]. I've seen
phrase-books that give grammars of some of the above-mentioned
languanges sometimes indicate the French [r] sound for the [gh] sound.
In the Dutch movie [The Vanishing] I have heard the Dutch wife (who soon
become missing) use the Klingon [gh] as the French [r] :) which is why I
do believe that Dutch does have a Klingon [gh] sound, I have seen Dutch
grammars|dictionaries indicate it has the Klingon [gh] sound (spelled
[g])
The
Albert Arendsen wrote:
>
> ghItlh Doneq
>
> >
> >Hmm... I'd say [gh] is just a really "hard" [g].
> >(Albert will know what I'm talking about :)
> >
> >I don't think [gh] sounds like [r] (though I must admit it comes
> >close)
>
> (regarding {ghItlh}... yes, the Dictionary has arrived) ;-)
>
> to quote from the KLI site:
>
> gh: A gargled sound, at the back of the throat. Like the Klingon H, only
> voiced. It's very much like the French gargled "r."
>
> so it is somewhere inbetween a hard Dutch [g] and a mispronounced Dutch [r].
> "mispronounced" because the official Dutch pronounciation is like the
> Klingon [r], and not down in the throat ;-)
>
> Qapla'
>
> Chakotay
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