tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Apr 23 16:03:55 1998
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Re: veS
- From: Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: veS
- Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:02:38 -0500
At 06:07 PM 4/17/98 -0700, Voragh wrote:
>|ter'eS wrote:
>|}> yejquv DevwI' moj ghawran 'e' wuqta' cho' 'oDwI' Dapu'bogh janluq
>|}> pIqarD HoD.
>|}> Gowron ... named leader of the High Council by Captain Jean-Luc
>|}> Picard, who was acting as Arbiter of Succession. (SkyBox S25)
>|}>
>|}What is the distinction between this use of {Da} and the KGT verb {gheS},
>|}I wonder?
>|
>|{Da} is act as, {gheS} is actually assume the position. When I went away
>|for a couple of weeks at Christmas, {BG Da charghwI'}. When I join the
>|ranks of the ex-BGs, {BG gheS vay'}.
>|
>|Qov [email protected]
>
>{Da} "behave as, act in the manner of" has been used in two other examples
>in addition to SkyBox S25:
>
> nepwI' Daba'
> He is obviously lying. (TKD)
>
> HaDlu'meH, QuSlu'meH, SuDlu'meH lojmIt Da logh Hop Hut tengchaH.
> vaj loghDaq lenglaHtaH Humanpu'.
> space station Deep Space Nine is the gateway for the exploration,
> intrigue and enterprise that mark the continuation of the human
> adventure into space... (SkyBox DSN 99)
>
>{ghes} "assume the duties of, take on responsibilities" is explained in
>detail in KGT p. 182ff. Two examples in context are given:
>
> DaH yaS wa'DIch vIgheS.
> I now take my place as first officer.
>
> juDev 'ej Dujvam ra'wI' DagheS 'e' vItlhob.
> I ask you to lead us as commander of this ship.
>
>
So, as I read this, the verb {gheS} would actually be the better description
of Piqard's service. Had the verb existed when MO wrote the Skybox
card, he probably should have used it. jIqar'a'.
-- ter'eS