tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Aug 14 22:15:15 1996
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Re: Hello.
- From: [email protected] (HoD trI'Qal)
- Subject: Re: Hello.
- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 01:16:23 -0400
At 09:41 AM 8/14/96 -0700, Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
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>>Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:01:07 -0700
>>From: Robert Darke <[email protected]>
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>>pablIj vIpojqangbe' 'ach QaQlaw' pablIj.
>>tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI' soHtaHvIS batlh Daghaj.
>>Qapla' Daghajjaj.
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>><translation - I hope ... I'm a newbie speaker, too>
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>>I am not willing to analyze your grammar but your grammar is apparently
>>good.
>>While you are a student of Klingon you have honour.
>>May you have success.
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>Also looks good (though "tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI' SoHtaHvIS" is kind of
>long-winded). Very good response!
You are right; it IS long-winded. :)
A good rule of thumb when translating to tlhIngan Hol is that if you are
yousing the "to be construction" and you had to turn a verb into a noun to
do it, there is probably a *better* way to say something--now, that isn't to
say that there is anything wrong with this translation... just tha some
people (like me :) ) wince when they see it.
Instead of trying to say "while you are a speaker of Klingon", why not just
say "while you are speaking Klingon":
tlhIngan Hol DajatlhtaHvIS
Or, more in keeping of the English translation you gave... "while you are
studying Klingon":
tlhIngan Hol DaHaDtaHvIS
Please note that this is just a suggestion of an alternate translation...
what you had was perfectly grammatical, and I understood you clearly (which
is something I always like to see in a beginner's post!). You can take it
or leave it, as you like. :)
>>yIn nI' Daghajjaj! (< may you have a long life)
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>I've always liked "nI'jaj yInlIj."
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>~mark
This falls under the same concept: if you have a verb which is being used
as either an adjective or has been nominalized, then you canprobably re-cast
the sentence to use the verb as a VERB, and it will be "neater". Just my
$0.02...
--tQ
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