tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Aug 13 15:04:16 1996

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Re: qep'a' highlights (Hey let us in on it, guys)




On Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:56:59 -0700 [email protected] 
wrote:

> qaSDI' 96-07-30 09:29:56 EDT, jatlh ~mark:
> 
> > >yabDu'raj tIjejmoH 'e' vImaS.  I prefer that you sharpen your minds.
> >  
> >  Hmm... Interesting.  Does the imperative work here?  I think it does in
> >  Esperanto (mi preferas ke vi akrigu...)  Does it make sense though?
> >  Something to think about.  Maybe a simple indicative is more sensible.

I'd prefer a less idiomatic:

yabDu'raj tIDubmoH 'e' vImaS.

> This sort of thing has always struck me as a slightly "marked" (I've never
> used this word in this way, or frequency, until signing onto this list!) way
> of speaking.  Similar to the trick of saying something like
> 
> ~'Iv HoH 'e' vISov~  "I don't know whom he killed."

And for this, I'd prefer:

nuv HoHbogh vISovbe'.

I don't know the humanoid whom he killed.

You may complain that this is ambiguous with one of the 
meanings paralleling:

nuv HoHbogh vIghovbe'.

If you want to express it as "I don't know the identity of 
the person he killed," then the Klingon Way (page 59) gives 
us the use of {qab} as symbol of one's identity, so you 
could say:

nuv qab HoHbogh vISovbe'. 

Meanwhile, this is even MORE ambiguous, since it could 
obviously mean, "I don't know the bad person whom he 
killed." We could tweak things a bit.

nuv qabna' HoHbogh vISovbe'.

I don't know the true identity of the person he killed.

Mostly, I feel like, while this use of a question in a 
Sentence As Object construction may be legal, though it is 
without canon, it is usually unnecessary because of the 
relative clause construction which usually takes care of 
it.
 
> SuStel
> Stardate 96580.1

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