tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Aug 01 12:12:00 1996
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>Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:20:44 -0700
>From: [email protected] (JEFF ZEITLIN)
>T::>Note "tu'lu'" for existence of the Great Hall. Ooh, don't think we ever
> ::>saw canon use of San before. And canon spelling of Gowron's name. I note
> ::>the phonology-breaking "pIqarD" transliteration; I suppose that makes sense
> Just a semi-random comment - I was struck by the resemblance
> between "Picard" the way Patrick Stewart pronounces it and the
> {tlhIngan Hol} word {pIqaD}, the {tlhIngan Hol} writing system.
> Do you think that Klingons make jokes about "Jean-Luc
> Alphabet"?
HIja', rurchuq net tu'. meq wISovbe'; chaq meq tu'be'lu'. loQ
tlhaQlaw'. :)
> ::>in some transliterations (we have people whose names in English are spelled
> ::>Nguyen or Mb... damn, can't remember the name of that politician... which
> If you're thinking of the one that just became head of the
> NAACP, it's "Mfume", supposedly pronounced "oom-foomay". No
> way. I've heard him pronounce it. He really does pronounce
> the MF combo without sticking a leading vowel on. To me, it's
> no harder than the initial TL sound in some {tlhIngan Hol}
> words.
Yeah, that was probably the name... though mb- mf-, etc are not uncommon
initials in some African languages. I have no trouble pronouncing them
either, but that doesn't mean nobody does. After all, I have no trouble
pronouncing "th" but some people do... or those consonant clusters English
is famous for that Japanese speakers split up to fit their mouths and
phonology more comfortably. The point was that even though Mf- is not a
permissible initial in English, we still write Mfume. So too, even though
- -rD is not a permissible final in tlhIngan Hol (so far as we know), they
may still write it in transliteration, without necessarily indicating
that -rD really IS a permissible final.
~mark
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