tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Feb 07 06:30:37 1995
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apposition?
- From: [email protected] (Bill Willmerdinger)
- Subject: apposition?
- Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 19:07:13
uu> From: "William H. Martin" <ur-valhalla!jm.acs.virginia.edu!whm2m>
uu> MUCH better! The only think I feel a little shaky about is the
uu> use of "~mark", which, like any explicit noun, is third person,
uu> in the explicit object position while your prefix indicates a
uu> second person object. Maybe it works just like you intend it
uu> to, but I can't be sure. I think what you are doing is referred
uu> to in linguistic terms as "apposition". "I thank you, ~mark."
uu> Here, "you" and "~mark" are essentially restatements of a
uu> reference to the same person. Okrand doesn't tell us how to do
uu> that in Klingon.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but doesn't this fall under section 5.6 in TKD? "Names
may be used in direct address (that is, calling somebody by name) at the
beginning or end of the sentence." Okrand's examples are {torgh HIghoS} and
{lu' qaH} for "Torg, come here!" and "Yes, sir!", but the line quoted from TKD
clearly indicates that {torgh HIghoS} could also be {HIghoS torgh}... which is
the same as the "I thank you, ~mark" above.
Granted, this is direct address, not apposition, but it makes "I thank you,
~mark" and all it's permutations legal.
cha' DeQmeywIj neH...
(Incidently, I've been getting spammed with dupes off the List for the last
week or so. Is this universal, or is it just my gateway/feed going bonkers?)
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