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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] splitting -taHvIS

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">I could find no examples of {-taHvIS} - or even {-taH} for that matter - used with {-Qo’} on the same verb. &nbsp;AFAIK there are three examples where the suffixes are deployed on different verbs in the phrase/sentence/utterance:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Courier">'ang'eghQo' quv Hutlhbogh jagh neH ghobtaHvIS ghaH</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">Only an enemy without honor refuses to show himself in battle. (TKW)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#C00000">qaStaHvIS wanI’vam yIDachQo’</span></b><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Don't miss this event! (WSC)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Courier">mamevQo'</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier">. &nbsp;<b>maSuvtaH</b>. &nbsp;<b>ma'ov.</b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">Battling on through the Eternal fight. (Anthem)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Fiat Knox [mailto:[email protected]]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:10 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Has any instance cropped up where you said &quot;while X was refusing to Y&quot; and had to insert
<b>-Qo'</b>&nbsp;between <b>-taH</b>&nbsp;and <b>-vIS</b>?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">It just occurred to me that
<b>-Qo'</b>&nbsp;can be used in a non-imperative, meaning <i>refuse</i>, and that <b>-Qo'</b>&nbsp;comes after all suffixes
<i>except</i>&nbsp;a Type 9 - so <b>-Qo'</b>&nbsp;should come between <b>-taH</b>&nbsp;and <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2379">
-vIS</b>. Other than <b>-neS</b>, it would be the only suffix technically capable of splitting these two suffixes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">While
<b>*vumtaHQo'vIS vutwI' ghung Soj je'wI'pu'</b>&nbsp;<i id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2460">as long as the cook refused to work, customers went hungry</i>&nbsp;might technically be possible, does it sound awkward - or only as awkward as &quot;To Boldly Go Where No-One Has
 Gone Before&quot; does to an English grammarian with a loathing of split infinitives and dangling prepositions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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