tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Sep 21 06:55:12 2015
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] splitting -taHvIS
Steven Boozer (sboozer@uchicago.edu)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">I could find no examples of {-taHvIS} - or even {-taH} for that matter - used with {-Qo’} on the same verb. AFAIK there are three examples where the suffixes are deployed on different verbs in the phrase/sentence/utterance:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Courier">'ang'eghQo' quv Hutlhbogh jagh neH ghobtaHvIS ghaH</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">Only an enemy without honor refuses to show himself in battle. (TKW)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#C00000">qaStaHvIS wanI’vam yIDachQo’</span></b><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Don't miss this event! (WSC)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Courier">mamevQo'</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier">. <b>maSuvtaH</b>. <b>ma'ov.</b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">Battling on through the Eternal fight. (Anthem)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Fiat Knox [mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:10 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Has any instance cropped up where you said "while X was refusing to Y" and had to insert
<b>-Qo'</b> between <b>-taH</b> and <b>-vIS</b>?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">It just occurred to me that
<b>-Qo'</b> can be used in a non-imperative, meaning <i>refuse</i>, and that <b>-Qo'</b> comes after all suffixes
<i>except</i> a Type 9 - so <b>-Qo'</b> should come between <b>-taH</b> and <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2379">
-vIS</b>. Other than <b>-neS</b>, it would be the only suffix technically capable of splitting these two suffixes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">While
<b>*vumtaHQo'vIS vutwI' ghung Soj je'wI'pu'</b> <i id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2460">as long as the cook refused to work, customers went hungry</i> might technically be possible, does it sound awkward - or only as awkward as "To Boldly Go Where No-One Has
Gone Before" does to an English grammarian with a loathing of split infinitives and dangling prepositions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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