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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] is there a word for "darth" ?

Brent Kesler ([email protected]) [KLI Member]



<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon";>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon</a><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Darth</b><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> was a title given to the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Lord_of_the_Sith/Canon"; title="Dark Lord of the Sith/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Dark Lords</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> of the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith/Canon"; title="Sith/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Sith Order</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">, which preceded a moniker different from the birth name. The Sith names of </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sidious"; title="Darth Sidious" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Sheev Palpatine</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">,</span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku/Canon"; title="Dooku/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Dooku</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> and </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker/Canon"; title="Anakin Skywalker/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Anakin Skywalker</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> were Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus and Darth Vader.</span><sup id="cite_ref-ROTS_0-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-ROTS-0"; style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[1]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> The title was already in use about one millennium before the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_Wars/Canon"; title="Clone Wars/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Clone Wars</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">, when </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane/Canon"; title="Darth Bane/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Darth Bane</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> created the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_Two/Canon"; title="Rule of Two/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Rule of Two</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">.</span><sup id="cite_ref-SWEBane_1-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-SWEBane-1"; style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[2]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> In at least one known case, that of Anakin Skywalker, the Darth title and the accompanying moniker were bestowed onto the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_apprentice/Canon"; title="Sith apprentice/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Sith apprentice</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> by the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Master/Canon"; title="Sith Master/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">master</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">.</span><sup id="cite_ref-ROTS_0-1" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-ROTS-0"; style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[1]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> The </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Master/Canon"; title="Jedi Master/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Jedi Master</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi/Canon"; title="Obi-Wan Kenobi/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Obi-Wan Kenobi</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> once used &quot;Darth&quot; as a form of address when talking to Darth Vader.</span><sup id="cite_ref-ANH_2-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-ANH-2"; style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[3]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> It was traditional that only the current Sith Master and his or her apprentice were allowed to use the Darth title.</span><sup id="cite_ref-100S_3-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-100S-3"; style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[4]</a></sup></span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Anthony Appleyard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Likeliest, if a Klingon ship found its way across the dimensions to Middle Earth, or Earendil&#39;s spaceship that was made for him in Valinor found its way to the Star Trek universe, the Klingon word {betleH} would be taken across as &#39;betlech&#39; (&#39;ch&#39; pronounced as in German or Welsh), or however that it written in the Elvish alphabets called &#39;tengwar&#39; or &#39;cirth&#39;.<br><blockquote style="margin-right:0px;margin-left:15px"><span class="">----Original message----<br>From : <a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br>Date : 21/09/2015 - 05:16 (GMTST)<br>To : <a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br>Cc : <a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br>Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] is there a word for &quot;darth&quot; ?<br><br></span><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>....<br></div><span class="">This begs the question, why does Klingon need a term for Darth, any more than Sindarin needs one for bat&#39;leth?<br></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><p></p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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