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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] is there a word for "darth" ?
Brent Kesler (brent.of.all.people@gmail.com)
- From: Brent Kesler <brent.of.all.people@gmail.com>
- Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] is there a word for "darth" ?
- Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:26:24 -0400
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon">http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon</a><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Darth</b><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> was a title given to the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Lord_of_the_Sith/Canon" title="Dark Lord of the Sith/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Dark Lords</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> of the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith/Canon" title="Sith/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Sith Order</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">, which preceded a moniker different from the birth name. The Sith names of </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sidious" title="Darth Sidious" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Sheev Palpatine</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">,</span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku/Canon" title="Dooku/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Dooku</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> and </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker/Canon" title="Anakin Skywalker/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Anakin Skywalker</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> were Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus and Darth Vader.</span><sup id="cite_ref-ROTS_0-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-ROTS-0" style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[1]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> The title was already in use about one millennium before the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_Wars/Canon" title="Clone Wars/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Clone Wars</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">, when </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane/Canon" title="Darth Bane/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Darth Bane</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> created the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_Two/Canon" title="Rule of Two/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Rule of Two</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">.</span><sup id="cite_ref-SWEBane_1-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-SWEBane-1" style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[2]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> In at least one known case, that of Anakin Skywalker, the Darth title and the accompanying moniker were bestowed onto the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_apprentice/Canon" title="Sith apprentice/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Sith apprentice</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> by the </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Master/Canon" title="Sith Master/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">master</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">.</span><sup id="cite_ref-ROTS_0-1" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-ROTS-0" style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[1]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> The </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Master/Canon" title="Jedi Master/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Jedi Master</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> </span><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi/Canon" title="Obi-Wan Kenobi/Canon" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px">Obi-Wan Kenobi</a><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> once used "Darth" as a form of address when talking to Darth Vader.</span><sup id="cite_ref-ANH_2-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-ANH-2" style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[3]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:26px"> It was traditional that only the current Sith Master and his or her apprentice were allowed to use the Darth title.</span><sup id="cite_ref-100S_3-0" class="" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:0;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth/Canon#cite_note-100S-3" style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,108,176)">[4]</a></sup></span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Anthony Appleyard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.appleyard@btinternet.com" target="_blank">a.appleyard@btinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Likeliest, if a Klingon ship found its way across the dimensions to Middle Earth, or Earendil's spaceship that was made for him in Valinor found its way to the Star Trek universe, the Klingon word {betleH} would be taken across as 'betlech' ('ch' pronounced as in German or Welsh), or however that it written in the Elvish alphabets called 'tengwar' or 'cirth'.<br><blockquote style="margin-right:0px;margin-left:15px"><span class="">----Original message----<br>From : <a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a><br>Date : 21/09/2015 - 05:16 (GMTST)<br>To : <a href="mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com" target="_blank">bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com</a><br>Cc : <a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" target="_blank">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br>Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] is there a word for "darth" ?<br><br></span><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>....<br></div><span class="">This begs the question, why does Klingon need a term for Darth, any more than Sindarin needs one for bat'leth?<br></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><p></p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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