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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] [Phonetics] -ew', -Iw', -Iy'

lojmitti7wi7nuv (lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com) 

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Thanks. You are right. In fact, {y} doesn't sound like {I}. The latter is like the American short "i", as in "hit" while the former is like the second half of the sound Americans make when pronouncing the letter "e", a sound that doesn't exist as a vowel in Klingon. I just wasn't thinking.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is why {Iy} sounds like the impure (normal) American "E" and {ey} sounds like the impure (normal) American "A".&nbsp;</div><br class=""><div class="">
lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh<div class="">Retired Door Repair Guy</div>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:27 PM, David Holt &lt;<a href="mailto:kenjutsuka@live.com"; class="">kenjutsuka@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">&nbsp;<br class=""><div class="">&gt; lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh jatlh,<br class="">&gt; Effectively, {w} and {y} are {u} and {I} used as consonants, creating the only shift from one</div><div class="">&gt;&nbsp;vowel sound to another in Klingon without a consonant between them. Since Klingon lacks</div><div class="">&gt;&nbsp;the Japanese “long” vowel idea, you can’t have {uw} or {Iy}. I’m not sure why {ow} is not</div><div class="">&gt;&nbsp;allowed, unless Okrand is making fun of the impure long “o” sound that English speakers</div><div class="">&gt;&nbsp;tend to use.<br class=""></div><div class="">Actually {y} used&nbsp;in diphthongs&nbsp;represents /i/ doesn't it?&nbsp; Thus {Iy} is allowed, as attested by the words, {lIy}, {mIy}, {wIy}, and&nbsp;{SonchIy}.</div><div class="">&nbsp;</div><div class="">janSIy</div></div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Tlhingan-hol mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Tlhingan-hol@kli.org"; style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol"; style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>
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