Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jaw

[André Müller <esperantist@gmail.com>]

<p dir="ltr">Oh yes, now that you mention it, he has told this story several times before. I didn&#39;t think if the context, and when I translate or write anything in Klingon, I always use {joH}. So yeah, it&#39;s really a coincidence. But a nice one.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I&#39;ll put it into my list of pseudo-cognates between language (unrelated and unborrowed words in 2 language with the same meaning and the same pronunciation, like Persian and English &#39;bad&#39;, the most famous example.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 7, 2015 11:59 PM, &quot;nIqolay Q&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com";>niqolay0@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think it might just be a coincidence. IIRC, the behind-the-scenes<br>
story for {jaw} is that the actress playing Valkris couldn&#39;t pronounce<br>
some of the Klingon words right, so MO just retconned her<br>
mispronunciation of {joH} into a synonym. I believe this is the same<br>
reason why there are two words for &quot;yes&quot;, {HIja&#39;} and {HISlaH}.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:34 AM, André Müller &lt;<a href="mailto:esperantist@gmail.com";>esperantist@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; It just occurred to me that &quot;jaw&quot; might be another pun, or a nice<br>
&gt; coincidence.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In Thai and several other Tai-Kadai languages such as Shan, the word for<br>
&gt; lord is indeed &quot;jao&quot;, pronounced just like the Klingon word (well, almost):<br>
&gt; &lt;เจ้า&gt; [tɕâːw] vs. &lt;jaw&gt; [dʒɑw].<br>
&gt; The beginning consonant in Thai sounds pretty similar to the Klingon {j},<br>
&gt; although it&#39;s voiceless.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wonder if it was intentional (as with &lt;lung&gt; being identical in<br>
&gt; pronunciation to the Mandarin Chinese word for dragon), or if it&#39;s a<br>
&gt; coincidence...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Greetings from {bangqoq} (or rather: {qungtep maHa&#39;naqon}),<br>
&gt; - André<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Feb 7, 2015 10:02 PM, &quot;qurgh lungqIj&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:qurgh@wizage.net";>qurgh@wizage.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, February 07, 2015<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Klingon word: jaw<br>
&gt;&gt; Part of speech: noun<br>
&gt;&gt; Definition: lord<br>
&gt;&gt; Source: TKD (90 KE, 123 EK)<br>
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