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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Greetings from Maltz

Brent Kesler (brent.of.all.people@gmail.com) [KLI Member]



<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu"; target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">At {qep&#39;a&#39; loSDIch} &quot;Robyn Stewart&#39;s idea of {lutu&#39;lu&#39;} as the Klingon version of &#39;whom&#39; got a nod and an explicit lack of contradiction [from Okrand]. {naDev tlhInganpu&#39; lutu&#39;lu&#39;} is grammatical, but the {lu-} is more often left off.&quot;  [ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;]<br>

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&quot;{lutu&#39;lu&#39;} does NOT translate as &#39;whom&#39; in any way at all. It is just that in English, most people use the word &#39;who&#39; when formally they should be using &#39;whom&#39;, much like most Klingons use the word {tu&#39;lu&#39;} when they should be using {lutu&#39;lu&#39;}. In other words, the more formally correct sentence is {tlhInganpu&#39; lutu&#39;lu&#39;} though most Klingons most of the time would say {tlhInganpu&#39; tu&#39;lu&#39;}.&quot;  [charghwI&#39;]<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Once in college, I noticed I said &quot;there&#39;s&quot; when I should have said &quot;there are&quot; (eg, &quot;There&#39;s two people waiting outside.&quot;). Then I started noticing myself making this mistake all the time. Then I started noticing other well-educated people making this mistake all the time. Sometimes a linguistics habit is so ingrained, you don&#39;t notice the grammar. I doubt Klingons even notice when they say {tu&#39;lu&#39;} instead of {lutu&#39;lu&#39;}.</div>
<div><br></div><div>bI&#39;reng</div></div></div></div>
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