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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] -vo' question

Fiat Knox (fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk)



<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">IIRC, it's been established that -Daq and -vo' apply only to physical movement to or from a given location.<br><br>3.3.5 Syntactic markers<br><strong><strong><font color="#DD3615">-Daq</font></strong>
and <strong><font color="#DD3615">-vo'</font></strong> are 
strictly locative; they refer only to
     <u>motion</u>, or <u>location</u>.
     They can't be used in other situations in which English uses
     "to", "in" or "from" in a metaphorical sense (eg. "I translate from English to Klingon";
     you can't use <strong><font color="#DD3615">-Daq</font></strong>
     for "to" or <strong><font color="#DD3615">-vo'</font></strong>
     for "from").</strong> [HQ v8n1p7], quoted here from http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/kliadd3.html<br><br><div>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>Freelance Author</div><br><div><br></div><div>The Plainclothes Clown: http://fiat-knox.livejournal.com<br>The Serpent's Tongue: http://toscapetheserpentstongue.blogspot.com/<br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> nIqolay q &lt;niqolay0@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org" &lt;tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
 Sunday, 16 June 2013, 23:17<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Tlhingan-hol] -vo' question<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>Is it acceptable to use -vo' in the sense of a thing being given/taken<br>from someone, such as:<br><br>rewbe'pu'vo' rupmey 'Iq boS qum (The government collects too many<br>taxes from the citizens.)<br>DIvI' Duyvo' betleH pov Hevpu' ta' (The emperor received an excellent<br>bat'leth from the Federation emissary.)<br><br>Or is its meaning purely spatial, such that those example sentences<br>would have to be rephrased?<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"; href="mailto:Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org";>Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org</a><br><a href="http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol";
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