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[Tlhingan-hol] "Who are you?"

Fiat Knox ([email protected])



<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Interesting contradiction here.<br><div id="yiv3509788405"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id="yiv3509788405"><div id="yiv3509788405yui_3_7_2_31_1370438147244_59"><div id="yiv3509788405yui_3_7_2_31_1370438147244_58" class="yiv3509788405yui_3_7_2_31_1370438147244_55" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id="yiv3509788405yui_3_7_2_27_1370438147244_56"><br>When you really have to say "Who are you?" - that specific question, rather than {yIngu''egh} Identify yourself! - I spotted what might be a contradiction.<br><br>Conversational Klingon, that venerable old resource (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjBhGD2rFA), lists {SoH 'Iv} as "Who are you?" (from 11:20 on the above page) ... but TKD
 says the following:-<br><br>"For 'Iv who? and nuq what? the question word fits into the sentence in the position that would be occupied by the answer." [TKD, 6.4]<br><br>So technically, the construction ought to be {'Iv SoH} / {'Iv ghaH} / {'Iv tlhIH} / {'Iv chaH}, and {nuq 'oH} / {nuq bIH} for "What is it? / What are they?," right?<br><br>I've been in favour of {'Iv SoH} for "Who are you?" and {nuq 'oH} for "What is it?" for years, but this has been brought to my attention by a young, yet attentive, newcomer to tlhIngan Hol whom I've been training.<br><br>So would you call it a grammatical anomaly, a quirk of tlhIngan Hol, or something else?<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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