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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {qoSta'} clarified

Rohan Fenwick ([email protected]) [KLI Member] 

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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:<br><div>&gt; ...{'aplo'} {vey} je DIyajchu'meH 'eb Dajonpu''a' je?<br><br>jang ghunchu'wI', jatlh:<br>&gt; mu'meyvam vIyaj jIH. bIHmo' DumISmoH nuq?<br><br>jang je De'vID, jatlh:<br>&gt; chay' rurchuq 'aplo' ngaSwI' je? chay' pIm? ngaSwI' Segh 'oHlaw'<br>&gt; 'aplo''e'.<br><br>I don't think that {'aplo'} is really a subset of {ngaSwI'}. Like {qoSta'}, the impression I have of {'aplo'} is that it's more about form than function. I have it glossed in my head as "rectangular prism", or more simply "box". The contents of {'ul 'aplo'mey} "batteries" and {wab qoSta' 'aplo'} "cassette" have nothing in common, so I doubt very much that that's the relevant feature linking them together.<br><br>ghunchu'wI', Marc Okrand wIjatlhtaHvIS mu' {'aplo'} wIqelpu' SoH jIH je. bopbogh vay''e' jatlhpu''a' Marc? jIqawlaHchu'be'.<br><br>&gt; ngaSwI' Segh 'oHlaw' je vey'e'.<br><br>Similarly, I doubt that {vey} is a subset of {ngaSwI'}. {vey} is more a "set", a conglomeration of objects that has a specific and finite boundary and a common feature or purpose relating them. A deck of cards, for instance, is a {vey} ({wa' tlhIngan QaS vey} "one pack of Klingon forces", from MKE). So is the set of paraphernalia included in a board game ({veymey puS neH chenmoHlu'pu'} "Limited Edition" - literally "only a few sets has [sic] been made").<br><br>QeS<br></div> 		 	   		  </div></body>
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