tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 07 06:43:50 2013
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ghe'tor
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ghItlhpu' qurgh, jatlh:<br>> Klingon word: ghe'tor<br><div>> Part of speech: noun<br>> Definition: *Gre'thor* (where spirits of dishonored go)<br>> Source: KGT<br><br>jang De'vID, jatlh:<br>> This is in TKDA as {ghe''or} (with two adjacent glottal stops!), and<br>> it is pronounced that way on the Power Klingon tape too (in the curse<br>> {ghe''orDaq luSpet 'oH DaqlIj'e'}). Sources after this consistently<br>> use the {ghe'tor} spelling though.<br>> I'm not sure if the earlier spelling should be considered a mistake,<br>> or if they are two equally valid alternate spellings.<br><br>For my part I try to avoid tarring one form or another as a "mistake", even if it's probably pretty clear that's how it originated. Klingon is supposed to be naturalistic, and pairs like jorneb/jornub, naHjej/neHjej, and the like could be dialectic or simply idiolectic variation. I like the idea that Klingon would have variety along these lines - the Empire's too big to be culturally homogeneous, after all.<br><br>At any rate, we know from the paq'batlh that some instances of glottal stop in modern Klingon come from no' Hol /t/ - /tubba'lit/ for {tobbe'lu'}, for instance. The recently-revealed verb {rIt} "summon" is also suspiciously similar to {rI'} "hail" and I've wondered if {rIt} could be etymologised as a reborrowing from an older form of Klingon. Similarly, perhaps {ghe'tor} is an archaic-sounding form in Klingon, with {ghe''or} the more modern, or perhaps simply more casual, pronunciation. Who knows?<br><br>QeS<br></div> </div></body>
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