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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Sunlight and Starlight

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<div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I&#39;m no canon authority, but I&#39;ve noticed other compound words that strongly imply additional vocabulary.</font><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">The logic is compelling. Even if it&#39;s </font>merely an idiom like &quot;swim meet&quot; or &quot;track meet&quot; as opposed to the usual noun &quot;meeting&quot; as in &quot;board meeting,&quot; {<b>maSwov</b>} implies a noun construct <b>*wov</b>, making <b>julwov</b> and <b>Hovwov</b> almost unavoidable since they&#39;re also astronomical light sources. It seems unlikely to be an idiom, so the noun construct would work with any light source and there would almost<b> </b>certainly be a noun <b>wov</b> for light of unspecified origin. (BTW, why no noun for light if there&#39;s a noun <b>{&#39;otlh}</b> for photon?)</div>
<div><br>Klingons may not make a fetish of logic, but they don&#39;t abandon it completely like humans.</div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div>yISIch &#39;ej yItlhap! narghmeH bIj ngeD law&#39;, HevmeH chaw&#39; ngeD puS.</div>
<div><br>~&#39;eD</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Gaerfindel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href=""; target="_blank"></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>On 8/15/2013 2:49 AM, Fiat Knox wrote:<br>
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        <div>The latest words on my wishlist are words for <span style="font-style:italic">/sunlight/</span> and <span style="font-style:italic">/starlight/</span><span>, as</span>
          well as a noun for /<span style="font-style:italic">light/</span><span>
            (if such a word has not already entered canon).<br>
        <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif"><br>
        <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif">We have {<span style="font-weight:bold">maSwov</span>}
          for <span style="font-style:italic">moonlight</span><span>,
            but while I may surmise that /<span style="font-style:italic">sunlight</span>/ and /<span style="font-style:italic">starlight</span>/ might use <span style="font-weight:bold">jul</span><span> and <span style="font-weight:bold">Hov</span><span>,
                respectively, possibly combined with some noun construct
                like <span style="font-weight:bold">*wov</span><span>,
                  I&#39;d not like to go any further down that road.</span></span></span></span></div>
        <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif"><br>
        <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif">I note a noun, <span style="font-weight:bold">wovmoHwI&#39;</span><span>, but that seems to be more
            along the lines of a thing doing the brightening - a bulb,
            lamp, lantern or flashlight - </span>than the light itself.</div>
    My sense tells me that {julwov} and {Hovwov} are the constructs
    you&#39;re seeking.  Not canon, of course, but probably understood.<br>

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