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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>For “news” or a “news item” I like to use the noun {<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>potlh</span></b></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>}</span></b> “consequential thing, something important”.</span></font><font color="#1f497d"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Examples of {<span class=SpellE>w<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>anI</span></b></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>'} “</span></b>phenomenon, event, <span class=GramE>occurrence</span>” in canon:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>naDev</span></font></b></span></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'> <span class=SpellE>qaS</span> <span class=SpellE>wanI</span>' <span class=SpellE>ramqu</span>' <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>There's nothing happening here. (TKD) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>Heghlu'DI</span></font></b></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>' <span class=SpellE>mobbe'lu'chugh</span> <span class=SpellE>QaQqu</span>' <span class=SpellE>Hegh</span> <span class=SpellE>wanI</span>'</span></b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Death is an experience best shared. (TKW</span></font><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>wanI'vam</span></font></b></span></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'> Dun <span class=SpellE>luleghlaHmeH</span> tlhIngan <span class=SpellE>SuvwI</span>' <span class=SpellE>Duypu</span>' <span class=SpellE>bongeH</span> 'e' <span class=SpellE>lutul</span> <span class=SpellE>tera'nganpu</span>'</span></b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"'>We hope that you can send a delegation of honorable emissaries to witness this glorious event. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>('U'-MTK; i.e. an opera)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>qaStaHvIS</span></font></b></span></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'> <span class=SpellE>wanI’vam</span> <span class=SpellE>yIDachQo</span>’</span></b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"'>Don't miss this event! <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>(WSC; i.e. a play)<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]></span><o:p></o:p></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Although he didn’t mention {<span class=SpellE>wanI</span>’}, Okrand indicated the types of things he considers events in <span class=SpellE>HolQeD</span> 12.2 (p.8):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Times'>HQ 12.2:<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>When an event over which one has some control ends (one can't cause a month to end), a different verb is used: {<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>van}</span></b>. This would apply to such things as voyages, battles, plays, operas, stories, and songs. Here, the event (the voyage, the song) doesn't end; the participant in the event or the perpetrator of the event ends it.<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></b></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-no-proof:yes'>Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-no-proof:yes'>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></font></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From: [email protected]<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I know I'm still a newbie, but I would think wanI'mey would be a good way to say "news". I've always felt the term "news" really just means the most current "events" or "occurences", and it seems pretty direct. As an aside, I set my Facebook page to Klingon, and I really don't like the way they label "events" (in the sense of upcomming parties, or meetings, etc) as wanI'mey, so perhaps it's just my own bias that I want to see the term used differently :)</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br></span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]></span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=ecxstopSpelling></span></font></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:43:13 +0200<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>How would you translate the following terms? I've divided them into two sections, terms from the main search page, and terms from the advanced search page. I've also provided links to the current English and Klingon versions of those pages for reference.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>News<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>_______________________________________________
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