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RE: Yet another newbie!

eric mead (emead@hotmail.com) [KLI Member]



 

> nuq 'oHtaH "KLD"'e'? rap'a' "TKD" "KLD" je?
> lay'tel SIvten


Can you explain to me 'oHtaH? It seems to me that the -taH ending gives this a meaning of continuously being something (or somewhere), which seems a bit much for the intended 'identity' meaning. (~"What is KLD being?" ?)

I would have expected something like:   nuq "KLD"? 

Is this a common, productive construction in Klingon?

 

I'm a complete beginner, so please, if you would, explain this to me as if I know nothing :)

 

-ERIC


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:43:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: Yet another newbie!
> From: lytlesw@gmail.com
> To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
> 
> nuq 'oHtaH "KLD"'e'? rap'a' "TKD" "KLD" je?
> lay'tel SIvten
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:35 PM, <kff@sics.se> wrote:
> 
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> > To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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> > tlhIngan Hol vIghoj vIneH!
> >
> > Here is another Swedish newbie. Thing is, there was a program on Swedish
> > television about a month ago about artificial languages, and in particular
> > Klingon. Interviews with Marc Okrand, Arika Okrent and notable Swedish
> > Klingonists. And I got caught.
> >
> > So I have gotten KLD and downloaded {pojwI'}, which I'm using together
> > with a flashcard program called Anki (tip to Jacob!) which is nice since
> > you get to make your own cards and it uses a spaced repetition algorithm
> > to show them to you suitably often.
> >
> > I wonder if anyone have good ideas for pronounciation training; I have
> > used the descriptions, the recorded phrases at the KLI site and the Forvo
> > site. And of course, I listen to {taH pagh taHbe'} over and over again ;-)
> > But beyond that?
> >
> > One thing in particular that puzzles me is how {Duy'a'} and {Duy''a'}
> > differ in sound, that is, how to say {''}.
> >
> > Also, I wonder about using locative in a noun phrase, as in {bIQDaq veng},
> > my attempt at translating "the city on the water" (yes, I know a true
> > Klingon would not associate his city with water...). Is that ok?
> >
> > {jIlabta'}
> >
> > {buSwI'}
> > aka kff
> >
> >
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