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Re: nuq bach?

MorphemeAddict ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol taghwI']

In a message dated 5/20/2009 16:29:05 Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

> 
> 
> Fiat Knox wrote:
> 
> > nuq bachpu' puqloD - what did the boy shoot?
> > puqloD bachpu' nuq - what shot the boy?
> 
> Just a minor digression. I believe KGT tells us that /bach/ takes the 
> thing projected as its object:
> 
>     nISwI' HIch tIH bach yaS.
>     The officer shoots the disruptor pistol beam.
> 
> But because things like /tIH/ are so commonly shot, they are often 
> dropped from the sentence, leaving the weapon which did the firing as 
> the object of /bach/:
> 
>     nISwI' HIch bach yaS.
>     The officer shoots the disruptor pistol.
> 
> If I am remembering this correctly, you cannot say */puqloD bachpu' nuq/ 
> "What shot the boy?" unless the answer were a trapeze cannon or the like.
> 
> If this is correct, a sentence like "The officer shot the criminal" has 
> to be said something like this:
> 
>     bach yaS; HeSwI' mup.
>     The officer shot; he hit the criminal.
> 
> (That's assuming I've got the right sense of /mup/ "impact, strike." 
> pojwI' tells me that /qIp/ "hit" refers to hitting with a hand, fist, or 
> implement.)
> 
> -- 
> David Trimboli
> http://www.trimboli.name/
> 

There is also this usage of {qIp} from HolQeD 1999/12:

Vixis: tlh'a' [sic: tlha'a] HoD, DoS wI-puS-taH.  nej-wI' tIQ 'oH   
Captain Klaa, we have a target in sight.  A probe of ancient origin.

Klaa: wI-qIp-meH Qatlh-'a'  
Difficult to hit?

Vixis: Qatlh-qu'    
Most difficult.

lay'tel SIvten

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