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Re: pIqaD bom

Michael Roney, Jr. (nahqun@gmail.com)



Ah yes. "x" wasn't printed.
I see it now.
I also see that "and" isn't in the lyrics and therefore not taking up a note. Do we just force it in the melody then?
This is much easier to wrap my head around with the music in front of me.

Thanks!

~naHQun

-Michael Roney, Jr.
Professional Klingon translator
http://twitter.com/roneyii

--Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Renee Scherer wrote:

Woops--I think that qagh- is more popularly known as "x".

--R



On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com>wrote:



> Interesting. You placed qagh- on a previously unknown-to-me note.

> And introduced yet another English ending.

> I'm starting to think that no one sings this song the same way (I was

> introduced to a peculiar UK version last night).

> ~naHQun

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> -Michael Roney, Jr.

> Professional Klingon translator

> http://twitter.com/roneyii

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> --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Renee Scherer wrote:

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> Quite true--sorry.  How's this?

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> > --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Renee Scherer wrote:

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> > > My line breaks or pauses are just the way my brain processes the song.

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> > > On 7/29/09, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com<amp%3Bamp%3Blt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com>

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> > > > While my wife has recently informed me of the similarities between

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> > > > and Twinkle, Twinkle; I have never compared the two in this manner.

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> > > >>A,B,C,D,E,F,G.      (Twinkle twinkle little star)

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Renee Scherer



ischerer@umich.edu

tlharin@gmail.com

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University of Michigan











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