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Re: Numbers with pronouns

David Trimboli ( [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

Christopher Doty wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 18:52, David Trimboli <> wrote:
>> I don't think you'd specify two of a group; you'd just specify two. This
>> happens in Star Trek III:
>>    wa' yIHoH!
>>    Kill one of them.
>>    "kill one"
> Actually, in thinking about this example... We know that numbers can
> be used as nouns, as in this example, so they should be able to stand
> in in cases with a pronoun as the verb:
> <cha' maH>
> "We are two"
> So maybe better would be (ignoring for the moment your later comment
> about the pronoun-as-verb, for parallelism with what I wrote before):
> <cha' maH, 'ej nItebHa' maHtaHvIS>
> "We are two, and while we are together..."
> Does this seem more agreeable?  Can number + pronoun be used in a
> simple clause like this?

With the greater context, the sentence is much better.

 > Just to be sure, though: there isn't
> anything in canon that precludes the use of an adverb with a verbal
> pronoun; it just seems odd?

Not that I'm aware of. It does seem odd, though, and lacking any 
examples, I would avoid it.

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