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Re: Dilbert Comic in Klingon for August 23, 2007

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



QeS:
> >SKI: I don't like {veD lInglu'bogh} for a couple of reasons. Following an
> >interesting natural/artificial contrast in KGT, I suggest {laSvargh veDDIr}
> >"factory pelt" as a translation for "fabric" in the DIlbert comic of
> >23-08-2007.

Robyn Stewart (Qov):
>I likely wouldn't recognize it as silk or cotton ... do Klingons have
>vegetable-based fabrics?  Remind me of a Klingon wearing something
>that wasn't leather, fur or metal.

Worf was seen wearing pajamas {nIvnav} on the Enterprise-D in TNG "Genesis" 
and "Ethics" which IIRC looked as though there were made of some heavy 
denim-like cloth with leather shoulder patches.  (See the illustrations in 
TKW p.70, 146 and 176.)   This may well have been a human convention he 
picked up from his adoptive parents or at Starfleet Academy however.

>Maybe they never invented weaving.

Qov may well be right.  Although we have a word for clothing or clothes in 
general {Sut}, as well as one for a disguise or costume {jech} - to say 
nothing about the problematic verb {tuQ} "wear (clothes)" - we have no 
words for cloth or fabric.  There are of course words for specific articles 
of clothing:  e.g. {paH} gown, {yIvbeH} tunic, {ngup} cape, {mop} robe, 
{wep} jacket/coat, {qogh} belt, {mIv} helmet, {pogh} glove, {Ha'quj} sash, 
and {nIvnav} pajamas.

The only comments by Okrand I could find WRT clothing are:

   Thus {DIrmey} "skins" and {veDDIrmey} "pelts" are not (or, perhaps
   better, are no longer) body parts, but rather are materials from which
   things (clothing or blankets, for example) may be made.
   [st.klingon 3/23/98]

   Similarly, one needs to be careful in talking about certain articles
   of clothing.  [KGT 29]

   ... an incident in literature that did deal with these articles of
   clothing. [KGT 125]

   A warrior's full set of armor, including weapons and clothing, is his
   {may'luch} (literally, "battle gear"). Traditional clothing worn in
   battle, known as {HIp}, the word currently used to mean "uniform", had
   both a protective function and a more utilitarian one, since it was
   from the clothing that weapons ({nuHmey}) or ammunition ({nIch}) could
   be hung.  [KGT 57]



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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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