tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 01 14:00:51 2007
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Spanish puns? (was Re: Pun discovered for {taj}?)
>At 02:35 PM Tuesday 10/23/2007, Voragh wrote:
> >We know that Okrand reads Spanish - his Ph.D. dissertation on Mutsun was
> >largely based on source material in Spanish - and that there are a few
> >other Spanish-derived puns in the vocabulary of Klingon. I
>
>Nobody responded - can it be that everyone agrees with me? - so I decided
>to collect the Spanish puns I'm aware of:
>
>{cha'par} "a bird noted for its song" (HQ 10.4) [PUN: Spanish *parpar*
>"quack" (the sound made by a duck)]
>
>{lam} "dirt" [PUN: Spanish *lama* "mud, slime"]
>
>{na'ran} "type of fruit" ["The closest equivalent to sweet is probably
>{na'ran rur} ('resembles a naran,' a fruit whose juice is sometimes added
>to sauces as a contrast to the other flavors.) Interestingly, many human
>visitors seem to really enjoy the juice of the naran all by itself,
>particularly in the morning, though Klingons find this practice most
>peculiar." (KGT 85) PUN: Spanish *naranja* "orange"]
>
>{pa' reD} "interior face of exterior wall" (n) [PUN: Spanish *pared* "wall"]
>
>{tuS} "cough" (v.) [PUN: Spanish *toser* (cf. also French *tousser*, Latin
>*tussire*, Italian *tossire*)]
>
>Another possible Spanish influence *might* be the reflexive usage of
>{taDmoH} "freeze" and {tujmoH} "heat":
>
> Generally, when a verb describing a state of being (for example,
> {tuj} ["be hot"]) is used in the imperative form, the suffixes
> {-'egh} (reflexive suffix) and {-moH} (cause) are used as well:
> {yItuj'eghmoH} ("Heat yourself!"-that is, "Cause yourself to be
> hot!"), {yItaD'eghmoH!} ("Freeze yourself!"--that is, "Cause
> yourself to be frozen!"). [KGT 117]
>
>Compare Spanish *congelarse* "to freeze", *enfriarse* "to get cold, cool
>down", etc. These types of reflexive forms are quite common in Spanish and
>it may have (unconsciously?) influenced Okrand.
>
>Anyone know of any others?
Apparently I'm the only one interested, but there's at least one other
Spanish pun according to the "Puns in the Vocabulary or tlhIngan Hol" page
(</wiki/index.php?Puns%20in%20the%20Vocabulary%20of%20tlhIngan%20Hol>www.kli.org/wiki/index.php?Puns%20in%20the%20Vocabulary%20of%20tlhIngan%20Hol
):
{qab} "face" (n.) [PUN: Spanish *cabeza* "head"]
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons