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Re: tlhingan-hol Digest V4 #56 (was Topic etc.)

Agnieszka Solska ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

>Subject: Re: tlhingan-hol Digest V4 #56

va! wa'Hu' QInwIj vIperHa'.
reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law', Hoch tuj puS.

> > Since Klingon has no category of tense, the problem of the time
> > reference might be resolved by
> >
> > 1. context and/or common knowledge of the participants of the > exchange
>
>So, show a conversation where that kind of shared knowledge or
>context would apply. Show a concrete example instead of a vague,
>abstract suggestion.

toH, ghu'vam yIqel:

wa'maH cha' wen pInwI' vItoy'choH.
ngoDvam vISovba' jIH, Sovba' je pInwI'.
luSov je latlh pInvam lutoy'bogh toy'wI'pu''e'.
Do'Ha' vItoy'taHvIS pagh Huch vIbaj.
tagha' pInwI'vaD jIjatlh:

<<qaStaHvIS wa' DIS qatoy'taH
'ach not jIHvaD Huch Danob.
petaQ! SIbI' Huch vIHevbe'chugh
vaj qatoy' 'e' vImev.>>

> > 2. adding the point of reference to the statement, as in :
> >
> >   wa'ben qatoy'choH 'ej qaStaHvIS wa' DIS qatoy'taH.
>
>That's the kind of awkward work-around I was trying to avoid. If it
>really is the best that any expert here can manage, I guess it's what
>we are stuck with.

jIQummeH 'ej jImughmeH tlhIngan Hol vIlo'.
loQ lutlh SuvwI' Hol pIj 'e' vItu'.
Hoch Qechmey vImuchnISbogh vImuchmeH rut jIvumqu'nIS.
qaDna' 'oH Qu'vam'e' 'ach qaDvam vItIvqu'.

In my experience as a Klingon language user and a translator
into Klingon I have often found the warriors' tongue a somewhat
crude tool for expressing thought. Yet, I actually enjoy the
challenge of making this tool convey the range of meanings I
need to convey.

>Someone should point this out to Okrand. I doubt
>he'd be satisfied with it once it came to his notice.
>
>Ask him how to translate "I've served you for the past year," then
>give him a year or two to think about it before answering.

mu'mey chu', pab chu' je SuqmeH Marc, matlh yu'nIS.
Do'Ha' pIjHa' qaS wanI'vam. 'ej qaSDI' chaq jIjqangbe' matlh.

'ISqu'

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