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Re: {-Daq} in complex sentences (was Re: jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe')

QeS 'utlh (

jIghItlhpu', jIjatlh:
>(Of course, how this would be realised for *objects* serving as
>headers in the main clause is mighty messy, and whether the {-Daq}
>is attached not to {qach}, but to the whole phrase {meQtaHbogh
>qach}, is up for debate. But that's another issue entirely, and one not
>for this thread.)

mujang SuStel, ja':
>Just to stick my opinion in this thread anyway, I have no problem with
>{qachDaq vIleghbogh Suv qoH neH}.

For "only a fool fights in a house that I see"? I concur. Since there's no
immediately obvious direct object for {vIleghbogh}, I don't see how this
could be parsed other than with {-Daq} belonging to the main clause,
not the subordinate one (excepting the ever-lurking Headless Relative).

Where I thought it would get messy is if there happened to be a {-Daq} header in the subordinate clause, but in retrospect, I see that there wouldn't ever be anything between the {-Daq}-bearing direct object and the verb to interfere with parsing, since all headers of a clause appear before the basic OVS unit of the sentence.

>I do have a problem with {qach vIleghboghDaq Suv qoH neH}.


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