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Re: Basic grammar question

Robyn Stewart (robyn@flyingstart.ca) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



At 12:02 AM 12/2/2007, you wrote:
>1)
>It could possibly have worked that when the prefix {ma-} is used, since that
>automatically indicates that the speaker is included in the subject, {jIH
>je} could be inferred and added to whatever the subject was (if needed):
>
>**bad Klingon: ** {maleng targh}  "the targh and I travel"

I hate that, unless we are all targs, in which case I would want to 
hear maleng targh'e'.

Satisfying unEnglish wants that way reminds me of the beginners who 
scramble up their words in what seems to be random fashion, "because 
Klingon is backwards from English, right?"

>2)
>
>For nouns that indicate a group, it could have been possible for Klingons to
>consider the group first person in some cases (or as desired by the speaker)
>when the possessive is used.
>
>**bad Klingon: **{tuqwIj juquvmoH} "you honor my house (us)"
>
>Which would be different than the way we would normally think using English
>grammar, where we speak of the group we belong to in 3rd person.
>
>The two ideas are sort of confounded in **bad Klingon:**{maleng qorDu'wIj}.
>
>This can all be categorized as a philosophical digression, I suppose.
>
>
>--
>Qang qu'wI'






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