tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri May 05 10:40:00 2006
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Re: KLBC
- From: Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC
- Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:39:45 -0700 (PDT)
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--- Steven Boozer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Whatever approach you take you can't deny that QeS
> (or whoever) has indeed
> noticed something interesting: It appears that two
> "adverbials" (i.e.
> those items actually labeled as such by Okrand, not
> including nouns
> functioning as time- and place-stamps) can't modify
> the same verb together
> directly, much in the same way that two "qualities"
> can't modify the same
> verb together. Our examples break them up, either
> by simple repetition or
> by adding a brief clause with {'ej}, {-bogh}, etc.
> Whether this is due to
> a previously undocumented grammatical rule, the
> prevalent favored
> rhetorical style, or a sampling anomaly is unknown.
>
My point is that, understanding time- and place-
stamps to be functional adverbs, and having no
compelling evidence that they are not equivalent
to a true adverb, the {pa' reH} example and the
{pIj...batlh} example cancel each other out. Well,
not really cancel each other out: the {pa' reH}
example tells me that you can have multiple adverbials
in the same verb phrase, and the {pIj...batlh}
example tells me that you can put them in
separate phrases. I can see no functional difference
between {pa'}, {reH}, {pIj} and {batlh}. If A = B =
C = D, and (A B) is allowed and (C and D) is allowed,
then what's the basis for saying (C D) _isn't_
allowed? In other words, I would say that {pIj
batlh maSuv} is perfectly legal, by analogy with
{pa' reH}, even though we have no canon example of it.
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons>
-- ter'eS