tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Apr 21 07:30:05 2006
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Re: qep'a' (was Re: On a more humerous note)
- From: Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: qep'a' (was Re: On a more humerous note)
- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:29:50 -0700 (PDT)
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FWIW I believe QeS lagh is exactly right in his
understanding of {nga'chuq}. That is how I use
it, too.
-- ter'eS
--- QeS 'utlh <[email protected]> wrote:
> ghItlhpu' Shane MiQogh, ja':
> >I still don't understand why mu- would be wrong...
> The subject would
> >be they/them and i would be the object. So i don't
> understand why
> >mu- would be wrong...
>
> As I said, I believe {mu-} would be wrong because
> the apparent suffix
> {-chuq} "each other" of the verb {nga'chuq} requires
> that the verb *not*
> take an object prefix. Reread TKD section 4.2.1.
> There, it says that only
> the "no-object" prefixes can generally be used with
> the verb suffixes
> {-'egh} and {-chuq}. {nga'chuq} isn't glossed as
> "have sex *with*", but
> "perform sex".
>
> And even if {-chuq} is actually part of the verb
> root rather than a type 1
> suffix, HolQeD 1:3 explicitly says "always subject",
> which indicates to me
> that the verb probably doesn't take an object under
> normal circumstances. If
> you wanted to say "he/she and I have sex with each
> other", you would need to
> say {manga'chuq ghaH jIH je} or just {manga'chuq}.
>
> QeS 'utlh
> tlhIngan Hol yejHaD pabpo' / Grammarian of the
> Klingon Language Institute
>
>
> not nItoj Hemey ngo' juppu' ngo' je
> (Old roads and old friends will never deceive you)
> - Ubykh Hol vIttlhegh
>
>
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