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Re: Klingon WOTD: noH (verb)

Terrence Donnelly ([email protected])

• From: Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>
• Subject: Re: Klingon WOTD: noH (verb)
• Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT)
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> In a message dated 10/3/2005 8:29:37 AM Central
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> [email protected] writes:
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> 
> > > I don't see why you say it's a noun.  I'm
> unclear
> > > about how {chorghSaD 
> > > qelI'qam} fits in the sentence, but {HIvchuq} is
> > > just "(he/she/it/they) attack each 
> > > other".  
> > > There's really no discussion.  They're notes
> from
> > > Star Trek 5: The Final 
> > > Frontier.  But it is canon.
> > >
> > 
> > In this case, I think the word is actually made
> > from {HIv} "attack" + {chuq} "range, distance".
> > KGT has {HIvDuj}, so using {HIv} this way isn't
> > entirely unknown.  I don't know if {HIvchuq}
> > appears anywhere except the movie, though.
> > 
> > So, if {HIvchuq} is (like {HIVDuj}) a noun, then
> > the criticism is valid.
> > 
> 
> Okay, now I know why it might be considered a noun,
> or at least a noun phrase.
> Now it makes even less sense grammatically than it
> did before.
> 
> lay'tel SIvten
> 

One possible analysis:

{chorghSaD qelI'qam HIvchuq} is a N-N phrase: 'an
attack range of 8 thousand kellicams' (by analogy
to {cha'vatlh ben HIq} 'liquor of 200 years ago'). 
Then the line is really 2 lines, abbreviated:

chorghSaD qelI'qam HIvchuq ('oH HIvchuqvam'e')
'e' vInoH.

"The attack distance is an 8-thousand qellicam
attack distance.  This I estimate."

In the heat of battle, grammar is the first
thing to go 8+)

-- ter'eS

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