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Re: lalDan mu'tlhegh

ngabwI' ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

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Subject: lalDan mu'tlhegh


> wIqIpe'DIya vIlaDtaHvIS mu'tlheghvam Daj vItu':
> cha' SaD ben; tera'Daq lalDan noy law' Hoch noy puS 'oH QIStoS lalDan'e',
> chenmoHta'bogh yeSuS QIStoS.
>
> pab'a' 'oH?  vIHon.

vIHon je.
This is another example of the difficulties of expressing a superlative 
outside the context of a simple statement.

> qaq'a':
> cha' SaD ben tera'Daq QIStoS lalDan'e' chenmoHta'bogh yeSuS QIStoS noy 
> law'
> Hoch tera' lalDan noy puS.
> [The Christian religion, which Jesus Christ created on Earth two thousand
> years ago, is the most famous Earth religion.]

I'm not sure the {Hoch tera' lalDan} is necessary: I would leave off the 
{tera' lalDan} bit.

And while your sentence is apparently grammatical, I would suggest, as a 
style thing, breaking it up into two separate sentences, so it will parse a 
little easier. Your wording, at first pass, sounds like it was the most 
popular 2000 years ago.

I would also suggest using {cher} "to establish", rather than {chenmoH}, 
which, for me at least, suggests the creation of something tangible, like a 
house, or a bookshelf (just examples, not comparing Christianity to a 
bookshelf.)

Addition of the word {DaH} "now" also would bring the time reference of the 
superlative to the present.

My suggestion:
{cha'SaD ben, tera'Daq, QIStoS lalDan cher yeSuS QIStoS. DaH, QIStoS lalDan 
noy law', Hoch noy puS}

"Two thousand years ago, on Earth, Jesus Christ established the Christian 
religion. It is now the most famous religion of all."

And that's my two cents worth.

--ngabwI'
Beginners' Grammarian
Klingon Language Institute
http://kli.org
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