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Re: early/late

Steven Boozer ([email protected]) [KLI Member] 

lay'tel SIvten:
> >> Since nobody said anything to the contrary regarding my post "nol", I 
> guess
> >> that {Qup} and {qan} can also be used to mean 'early' and 'late'.

SuStel:
> > "Early" and "late" are {'eq} and {paS}.  "Young" and "old" are {Qup} and
> > {qan}.  What makes you think anything else is correct?

{Qup} and {qan} are used with people; whether they can be used with 
anything else metaphorically is unknown.  There is, however, the simile 
{qan; QI'tu' rur} "He/she is as old as Qui'Tu" which, although directly 
referring to a person, indirectly refers to a mythological place.

{chu'} "be new" and {ngo'} "be old" might be less controversial.

DloraH:
>The way he was using them, "while the day was young", "while the night was
>old", ['eq] and [paS] wouldn't work because the day was not 'eq and the night
>was not paS; they were right on time.

A non-metaphorical approach:  {taghtaHvIS jaj} "while the day began/was 
beginning", {DortaHvIS ram} "while the night ended/was ending", etc.

And another:  {taghpu'DI' jaj} "when the dad had just began", {wej DorDI' 
ram} "when the night had not yet ended".  (Adding or omitting {-pu'} might 
fine tune these a bit, though I suspect that only a native speaker might be 
able to say exactly how.)

>As someone else mentioned, for "early in the day" one could use [po].

Also {jajlo'} "dawn" and {choS} "twilight".




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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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