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Re: core semantic case roles: agent, patient, focus

MorphemeAddict ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol taghwI']

In a message dated 2004-05-26 2:23:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

> Okrand is here *defining* the terms "subject" and "object."  Surely, when a
> careful linguist like Okrand defines terms, he does so correctly.  When he
> says "action," he must *mean* "action," right?
> 
To define an object he has to use an action verb.  Quality verbs don't take 
objects.  

Okrand wrote TKD for the lay public.  His works are full of errors.  The 
terminology is often imprecise.  He has NOT been a 'careful linguist'.  

Every time he says "action" or "activity" he means verb, yes, but he was not 
being accurate, because there are at least two kinds of verbs in Klingon.  
Just look at all the examples you yourself gave.  He simply overgeneralized his 
statements about verbs.  We already know that we have to take canon with a 
grain of salt, at least *I* do.  This is another (big) instance where this is true.

lay'tel SIvten

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