tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Jan 18 13:00:45 2004
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Re: KLBC -lu' + imperative
Am 18.01.2004 12:57:27, schrieb "Scott Willis" <[email protected]>:
>It probably doesn't work at all. The subject of an imperative is always
>second person ("you, y'all"), and use of {-lu'} indicates an indefinite
>third person subject ("someone, something").
from TKD, 4.2.5. Type 5: Indefinite subject/ability:
<<<<<
Those prefixes which normally indicate first- or second-person subject and third-person singular
object ({vI-, Da-, wI-, bo-}) are used to indicate first- or second-person object. Thus, {vI-,} which
normally means "I do something to him/her," when in a verb with {-lu'} means
"someone/something does something to me." Similarly, the prefix {lu-,} which normally means
"they do something to him/her," becomes "someone/something does something to them."
>>>>>
>As for how to say "Be seen!", I can only suggest a recast. {yI'ang'egh!}
{-lu'} doesn't mean passive voice; it's only the english translation that usually comes out passive.
>"Show yourself", {Daleghlu' 'e' yIchaw'!} "Allow yourself to be seen", etc.
I believe it's no sense to command an indefinite subject...
{Dalegh} "you see it"
{yIlegh} "DO see it!"
Subject: you
Object: it
{Daleghlu'} "someone sees you."
Subject: indefinite (!!)
Object: you
If I'd make a command, that would be
{yIleghlu'} "someone SEE you!!"
Quvar.