tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Feb 27 05:46:34 2004
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Re: [tlhIngan-Hol] Re: Hoch placement
From: "Dar'Qang" <[email protected]>
> Ok. To summarize:
>
> Hoch Duj : "each vessel"
> Hoch Dujmey : "all the vessels"
Yes.
> Duj Hoch : "the entire vessel"
Maybe.
> Dujmey Hoch : *not sure of meaning*
If any.
> Then the next question would be the plurality for purposes of S/O prefix.
>
> The third one seems clear:
>
> Duj Hoch wInuD : "We examine the entire ship"
>
> but the first two might have some wiggle room that allows for
> language-specific plurality.
> Using DIvI' Hol number sense:
>
> Hoch Duj wInuD: "We examine each ship"
> Hoch Dujmey DInuD: "We examine all the ships"
>
> But is this correct tlhIngan Hol?
TKW p. 51:
Hoch 'ebmey tIjon
Capture all opportunities.
({Hoch X-plural} takes plural-indicating prefix)
TKW p. 74:
DujDaj HubtaHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die defending his ship is the hope of every Klingon.
(If {Hoch tlhIngan} were considered to be plural, {tul} would have a {lu-}
on it. Unfortunately, {lu-} is the most frequently dropped suffix, and it's
*possible* that that's what happened here.)
At least a small bit of canon suggests that Klingon and English agree on
this.
SuStel
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