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Re: Klingon WOTD: cheH (v)

Lieven L. Litaer (Quvar) ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol ghojwI']



jaj 13.11.2003 rep 16:50:26, ghItlh Steven Boozer <[email protected]>:

>>cheHlu'DI', vaj batlhHa' vanglu', qar'a'?
>>tera' Hol mu'ghomwIjDaq jIlaD:  cheHchugh vay', jaghDaj vum.
>
>DalaDchu''a'?
vIlaDchu', 'a jIghItlhHa'!

>   "If someone defects, he works his enemy."
>
>{jaghDaj vum}???

muv!

>>maghwI' ghaH cheHwI''e'.  quv Hutlh.  jIyajchu''a'?
>
>bIyajchu'.

>Whether {cheH} can take an object (i.e. like a verb of motion) or a 
>complement with {-Daq}, is unknown.  For example, can I say:

looks strange to me...
Maybe because the dictionary tells me it's intransitive.
On the other hand, we know that MO has usually (tried to) give us an addition, to make the meaning 
clear.
It's just "defect", not "defect to" or "defect (to an enemy)" or so...

>In fact, can you defect to a place/people/government in Klingon, or do you 
>have to break the idea up into two sentences? 

This can never be wrong in Klingon :-)

>   cheH romuluSngan *Alidar Jarok* Sa'.  romuluS Hov wo'vo' DIvI'may'Duj
>    'entepray'Daq Haw'ta'.
>   Romulan General Alidar Jarok defected.  He managed to flee to the
>    Federation starship Enterprise from the Romulan Star Empire.

Does "defect" imply "run away, flee"? It reminds me more of "betray".

{cheH romuluSngan *Alidar Jarok* Sa'. tlhIngan wo' muv/toy' ghaH.}
"Romulan General Alidar Jarok defected.  He joined/serves the Klingon Empire."

{tlhIngan HIvDujDaq toy' wa' romuluSngan. cheHwI' ghaH}
"One romulan serves on a klingon attack-cruiser. He has defected"

Quvar.




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