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Re: DIpmey tIn chenmoH...



At the bottom of this message is the statement: "ghunchu'wI'"  Is this legal?  Can you have verb suffixes on a verb that is just being turned into a noun through the use of -wI'?  And what is it saying?  "a perfect programmer"?  Thanks for your help.  As you can see, I love the Klingon language, but you guys write so much differently than I do that it seems hard to translate off the top of my head a lot of the time.  Thanks, Warriors.

Alan Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:ja' SuStel:
>What is possible is the creation of a noun-noun construct, which is not a
>compound noun.

I agree completely with this interpretation. However...

>I don't accept the word */muDDuj/. Yes, we know what it means, but it's not
>a "legitimate compound noun," as described in TKD.

...TKD does tell how compound nouns arise. It's not because they are
"created", but because they are "common". If a string of nouns gets used
often enough, the boundary between words stops being important. The only
reason we don't consider novel compounds "legitimate" is because we've
agreed among ourselves that *we* don't add words to the dictionary.

Because we maintain that *we* don't define usage, *we* can't make a
"legitimate compound noun". But the truth is that we *do* have a
non-native standard of usage, and we *do* have certain turns of phrase that
we prefer over others. As much as we try to stay completely within the
predefined boundaries of TKD etc., e *do* end up with common strings of
nouns which probably deserve to be noted in some sort of "local" addendum
to the official dictionary.

>Encouraging casual
>creation of new compound nouns will encourage casual creation of hindsight
>words.

I too think "casual creation" is a bad thing. But for concepts like {muD
Duj} or {pem Hov}, which are both reasonably understandable and reasonably
common, I have absolutely no problem accepting their use as compound nouns.

-- ghunchu'wI'


Glory to you, and to your House.
taHjaj wo'
Qapla'

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